Looks more like Dave Navarro to me.

wow, you think that was abuse?

i say worse stuff than that to my 5 year old and she laughs.

that is just pitiful.

Ken. Now I understand.

You write:

"Yes, there are a lot of religious leaders who do have dog and pony shows, they do tell people that if they send them money, GOD will give them a lot more. THIS my friend is not the GOD of the Bible."

"Yes I know GOD has promised me life everlasting...BUT for this life...HE has promised that those who place their trust in HIM will suffer persecution and more because they trust in the Christ of the Bible."

As long as you suffer HERE and are rewarded THERE it is ok and is the work of GOD. But if you are given rewards HERE in exchange for good works HERE it isn't the God of the bible, it is Satan. So you do things HERE not for a reward HERE but for a reward THERE and that makes it ok.


Your right. That's not hypocritical at all.

JK if you think your verbal abuse to me will bother me, I have had a lot worse done and said to me. It will not bother me in the least but you can keep trying if you lilke

BTW, my wife and I have been married over 31 years and she fully supports what I am doing as her own brothers have had to face the injustice we work to stop. She has referred dozens of friends and family to us so truth does prevail inspite of your efforts to do otherwise.

LOL @ JK

ken deemer,

i think your wife beat the sense right out of you.

Mr Speare there is nothing hypocritical about what I wrote. I do agree that a lot of people who call themselves Christians are hypocritical but there are a lot of fake $20 bills out there too so are you going to throw away all of your money because of the counterfeits?

Or could it be that you are one of the ones who think this entire universe exploded out of NOTHING to create everything?

Now to go over your reply line by line:

"The amazing thing is that GOD is able to make something intended for evil turn out for good to those who do trust in Him."

"...God later used him to save a nation..."


How is this hypocritical when I show how GOD used a false imrpisonment for good? If I did not state that, would you have asked how could someone being sent to prison for a crime they did not do be for their good?

"I trust because of what I see HIM do every day."

I do see GOD at work every day. I have personally seen people who were within moments of taking their own life accept Christ and now they have a reason to live. I have contacted one by instant messenger to tell her that GOD does love her when she asked how I could send her the message as her instant messenger was not even on as she was just about to take a major overdose.

I have talked to people on the phone when they hung up in anger because I said something very much like I am saying here only for them to find I was still on the line about 5 minutes later when I felt the Lord telling me not to hang up. Within moments, that person found the peace they had longed for all of their life but could not find.

"I did not need a genie.... I needed and found a savior.... a savior that is not into doing dog and pony shows!"

Yes, there are a lot of religious leaders who do have dog and pony shows, they do tell people that if they send them money, GOD will give them a lot more. THIS my friend is not the GOD of the Bible.

Can't you see how your fourth statement contradicts your first three? You are arguing that God performs miracles and works in people's life but does not perform miracles or work in people's lives.

No it is not contradictory. MOST of the miracles are not seen by human eyes. It is found deep within the troubled soul who finds the peace they could not find anywhere else but in Jesus Christ. Most mistake the getting of possessions, the new car, the so called healing of disease as proof that GOD did it...but I also know satan does these things to give people a false sense of security. Remember we are told that many will say Lord have we not healed the sick and cast out demons in your name and GOD will tell them to depart from HIM because HE never knew them.

Finally, just one more example. You write:

"I do not need new cars, healing from every disease I may have or promises of wealth untold."

Right. Then what do you think heaven is? I assume you believe that God promises you an eternal reward in the "kingdom of heaven" where there will be no more death or disease, right? But no, you don't need any promises like that.

Yes I know GOD has promised me life everlasting...BUT for this life...HE has promised that those who place their trust in HIM will suffer persecution and more because they trust in the Christ of the Bible. All but one of the Apostles were murdered for their faith. More people are being killed today for their faith in Christ then anytime in history. Jesus did not tell us we might suffer for His name....HE said we will suffer. Paul said the preaching of the Cross if foolishness to man and that is evident from some of the replies we see here.

You don't need a genie because you found a savior, a magical, invisible savior who will grant your wish of eternal life in a magical land in the sky, but definitely not a genie.

I do not NEED these things but God does give them to me anyway and I do appreciate it.

http://www.shatterdmen.com/Are%20They%20Really%20Christians.htm

http://www.shatterdmen.com/Counterfeits.htm

If you really want proof that GOD and Jesus exist....check this out:

http://www.carm.org/evidence-and-answers


It answers questions such as:

Did Jesus ever exist?
Did Jesus really die on the cross?
Is the empty tomb of Jesus historical?
Did Jesus rise from the dead? An outline
Did Jesus rise from the dead?

If you didn't need him to grant healings or prayer requests or to save you from eternal damnation, then why would you need him?

Ken. What you wrote is a perfect example of the hypocrisy that pervades Christianity. Here are a few of your lines...

"The amazing thing is that GOD is able to make something intended for evil turn out for good to those who do trust in Him."

"...God later used him to save a nation..."

"I trust because of what I see HIM do every day."

"I did not need a genie.... I needed and found a savior.... a savior that is not into doing dog and pony shows!"

Can't you see how your fourth statement contradicts your first three? You are arguing that God performs miracles and works in people's life but does not perform miracles or work in people's lives.

Finally, just one more example. You write:

"I do not need new cars, healing from every disease I may have or promises of wealth untold."

Right. Then what do you think heaven is? I assume you believe that God promises you an eternal reward in the "kingdom of heaven" where there will be no more death or disease, right? But no, you don't need any promises like that.

You don't need a genie because you found a savior, a magical, invisible savior who will grant your wish of eternal life in a magical land in the sky, but definitely not a genie.

Kudos Mr. Speare. Too funny.

And Sweetie, I totally agree with Mr. Whitewood, and have stated the exact statement many times. I have absolutely no desire to spend an eternity with the idiots who take this life for granted each day, spouting random phrases from a ragged book, refusing to accept the knowledge that man has worked so hard to uncover. These idiots refuse to live a single day of our precious short lifespan, waiting to croak because the "next life" is where its at. That has to be the dumbest and most blasphemous life to live to ANY deity, and if its not, I have no desire to hang out with him or her for eternity.

Doesn't sound like any god I'd want to worship. When he sent his son to visit us 2,000 years ago, he could have at least brought penicillin.

So why do we blame GOD for all the evil in the world? One of the greatest gifts GOD has given each of us is CHOICE! You have this choice and you chose to mock God but HE still loves you. Many others have chosen to do evil such as a major at Ft Hood recently.

The amazing thing is that GOD is able to make something intended for evil turn out for good to those who do trust in Him. Many years ago, a man was sold into slavery by his own family, and later accused of a rape he did not do by his boss's wife and then he was sent to prison. Throughout all of this, he still held unto his faith in God and God later used him to save a nation....and to save each of us if we trust in Christ. His name....Joseph.

Bottom line, I do not need to see things like in this article....I trust because of what I see HIM do every day. Job trusted although everything and everyone told him not to. I do not need new cars, healing from every disease I may have or promises of wealth untold. I did not need a genie.... I needed and found a savior.... a savior that is not into doing dog and pony shows!

http://shatterdmen.com/first_step.htm

Well, that's all the proof I need of God's existence. I've been converted.

But I still won't worship him. With all of the horrible suffering in the world, with innocent children dying of starvation and disease every day, the way he uses his infinite wisdom and power is by appearing on car windows and grilled cheese sandwiches.

Doesn't sound like any god I'd want to worship. When he sent his son to visit us 2,000 years ago, he could have at least brought penicillin.

At least it wasn't on a taco shell this time or a tree trunk.

"I for one would rather burn in hell than live eternity with hypocrites." - Brad Whitewood

Now that's just stupid nonsense. Nobody believes that. Not even you.

Mr Whitewood. I've got some bad news for you. If you burn in hell you will have to endure that with the hypocrites. They may fool man but they can't fool God.

Another Xtian scam to let us know the end is near, woo pity doo. Xtians will try anything to put the fear of death in us. Fact, death is unavoidable.
Fiction: fear,
Main Entry: fear
Pronunciation: \ˈfir\
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English feren, from Old English fæÌ„ran, from fæÌ„r
Date: before 12th century
transitive verb
1 archaic : frighten
2 archaic : to feel fear in (oneself)
3 : to have a reverential awe of
4 : to be afraid of : expect with alarm
intransitive verb
: to be afraid or apprehensive

— fear·er noun


I for one would rather burn in hell than live eternity with hypocrites.

Looks like Ted Nugent to me.

I think there may be something to all this. I once saw the face of Elvis on my colostomy bag, but could never get anyone to take a picture of it.

No, really.

The Jesus I know wears a hair net.

my first thought was, what kind of drink was this guy putting in his truck?

then i saw the picture. when did he get the truck is what i wonder.

seems to me like some jesus freak put one of those ridiculous stickers on the window and it left a permanent image. i don't know...i could be wrong, but that's not likely. haha.

there's something behind it. i do know that.

if JC miraculously appeared on the window of my truck, I'd ask him to give me better gas mileage.
Just sayin.

Who says it's Jesus? Maybe it's Jerry Garcia telling him to keep on truckin'.

I'm just a jokester, bro. U R kiddin', right?

MAYBE JESUS IS TRING TO TELL HIM SOMETHING HE NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT

I see Willie Nelson.

Joe Lawson, you are just sick ... been on Facebook lately acting like someone's boyfriend and then dumping them so they'll commit suicide? Same intentions...

oh my goodness this guy is getting CLOWNED.

I played a cool April Fools Day joke here a few years ago. I was checking out at Wal-Mart and I told the cashier she looked mighty attractive that day. She blushed and went on with some "foolishness, then I said, "Nah. April Fools Day!" Everyone was laughing like hell. LOL.

After seeing the photo of the image I have to say either someone is having a little fun at Old Jim's expense or Jim is having a little fun at our expense. Personally I would have saved this till April Fools Day.

That image is pretty clear looking. Most of the other appearances people observe aren't as sharp and well defined as this one.

1 - I'm about sick of these so-called articles that are nothing more than "please click here for the REAL article" on some other newspaper's website.

2 - Jesus is an Isuzu man?

What kind of medication is he on?

Jesus' version of 'wash me'

Hmmm, picture too perfect. Wonder who the artist is in his family?

well sir, maybe you need to become "a particularly religious person" did you think of that? If Jesus was coming to visit me on my truck, I think I would take the hint! Of course he will probably sell his truck on Ebay or something and get a million dollars...just sayin'